What is the optimal AVG?

Started by lowcypieniedzy 2017-04-26 at 18:39
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Yearly Gold
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Hello, what is the optimal AVG? When to replace RR?

For 69 clicks AVG is only 2.2, recycle?
Yearly Gold
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just recycle ,don't give them more days to waste!
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My opinion: don't recycle without knowing why. You need to know why you must recycle or not.

As I said on another forum (adzseven, check my signature below) you need to know a few things. My post in adzseven was this:
AVG is good or bad according one specific thing: your expenses.

Let me tell you an example. Let's assume that you have:
- ONLY one ref.
- That he clicks ONLY one ad per day.
- And that his click brings you a whole dollar profit.

(OK, this is too much but let's avoid the too many zeros in our example).

Now, if you invested here 1 dollar what do you thing about his AVG? Is it good or bad? Well, it's not just good: it's PERFECT! Because you'll earn back your investment in one single day!

Now let's assume that his click does NOT give you a whole dollar profit but only half of it. Is this a good AVG or not? Well, it's is very good but not perfect since you need two days to take your investment back.

Now think: what if his click has even smaller value e.g only 0,25? Or 0,1? Or 0,001? Or 0,0001? Do you see the difference? You'll need a lot of days to take your investment back. So, less profit = more days.

Of course you probably thinking right now "but this is common sense, i.e less profit = more days! Why are you telling me this"?

Well, the answer is simple: "more days" based on what? YOUR EXPENSES. This is how you calculate AVG. Based on your expenses. You don't need site's calculator because the calculator calculates only your profits, not your expenses. It's useless to you. You need to know your expenses. It's mandatory if you want to know your profits.

PS: Since you didn't tell us how much you invested here (if you invested yet) we can't be sure if this is a good or bad AVG for you. Generally though it is considered good.

Good luck.

Now you know why you must recycle or not.
PS: Also read admin's tutorial here: http:
« Last Edit: 2017-04-27 at 10:47 by svey »
Yearly Gold
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Thanks for the answers!
I invested 190$, now I have 860RR.
« Last Edit: 2017-04-28 at 11:46 by lowcypieniedzy »
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I wish you good luck!
Yearly Gold
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Did I calculate it well?
$190 - My invest
880 - RR

$190/365 = ~ $0.52
0.52/880 = ~ 5,90

5.90 avg?
Yearly Gold
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The Most Important Thing in Traditional PTCs Rented Referral Average(Along With Some Other Factors Obviously, Like Any Other Earning Websites) Depends On Break Even Point (BEP, as also it is known by).......BEP varies from PTC to PTC, because of various membership prices, rented referral prices, value per rented referral click.........According to BEP, AVG of 6+ seems to be good for some ptc, whereas AVG of 9+, average of 0.95 or even 1.00 or 10+ seem to be good for some PTC.......For That, in scarlet-clicks, average of 6+ seemed to be decent, not very good, but just decent.....Of late, BEP increased, AVG decreased, due to that, scarlet-clicks has lost it's midas touch.......especially after evolve of some PTCs with excellent to good AVG considering BEP (Obviously they have the other considerable factors intact too to be successful) with some management of Rented Referrals,also combined with factors of different Rented Referral Filter or different value per rented referral click set for different membership .........gone those days of n**b**'s bad AVG thanks to evolve of above mentioned PTCs.......as n**b**'s popularity has gone down the drain for that reason(read higher BEP and bad AVG), similar things, at least to some extent,can be happened to scarlet-clicks too........sorry to say that........too much evolution has happened in traditional PTC Industry for PTCs like n**b** or again sorry to say, scarlet-clicks kinda ptc who have not changed themselves to be as popular as they were few years ago.........
« Last Edit: 2017-05-03 at 03:43 by adisarkar »
Shiladitya Sarkar
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Quote: lowcypieniedzy
Did I calculate it well?
$190 - My invest
880 - RR

$190/365 = ~ $0.52
0.52/880 = ~ 5,90

5.90 avg?

Yes and no - if you have an avg of 5.90 pr day for 365 days you could brake even
but you havent taken cost of your RR into the calculation (month pr month)

to get your BEP ( breake even point, min avg to make 0 earnings with out loosing money ) use these formulas:

RR avg = (Referral Price/Referral Click Value)/Days
Membership avg = ((membership cost / RR click value)/Membership duration)/number of RR
*recycle avg= (recycle cost/Days)/(RR click value)

total needed avg = RRavg + membership avg + recycle avg

so based on your numbers - without knowing your cost pr RR (asuming 0.17 for all of them, prob not right since i guess you cant rent 880 in one go)

RRclick value = 100% = 0.001
membershipcost = 100$

RR avg = 0.17/0.001/30 = 5.6666
Memebership AVG = 100/0.001/365/880 = 0.3113
Total AVG = RRAVG+ MembershipAVG = 5,9779

that is if you don't renew you RR for a longer time periode ( 60days, 90 days etc).
if you renew your RR then your BEP(need AVG to brake even) goes down.

happy earnings
« Last Edit: 2017-05-03 at 21:20 by HeikoB »
Yearly Gold
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Help me, please ... I have 1140 references and they clicked 5680 times. Is it good or bad? I have not been able to identify whether it is good or bad.
Monthly Gold
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