RR clickrates capped at 5 ?

Started by olaser 2019-02-11 at 15:43
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olaser
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Hello,

I am quite new to this page (since one week).
As I found some interesting posts in here about the RR strategies I thought I will join the game
To get a little jump start I invested 20$ 2 days ago.
I bought a monthly silver membership and 100 RR.
Today (day 3) I watched the numbers in more detail and some question came up.
Either I didnt got the rules right, or I am doing a mistake ...
So I need your help ;-)
When looking at the stats, I see the following referal clicks:
2019/02/09: 441
2019/02/10: 441
2019/02/11: 417 (until now, maybe it will go up, but if I am right, most refs did a click today so far)
I got 1299 clicks in total so far ($1,2999)

So I see an average click rate of 4,41 (4,33 with the current stats)

When looking through the forum I always see much higher rates ... some even around 6.

My best RRs have made 15 clicks so far ... 5 a day.
That seems a magic number to me ... as it is capped at 5?
So I am wondering how it is possible, to get an average rating above 5.

Maybe I am missing something or I am doing something wrong?

Any feedback would be nice!

Thanks in advance
olaser
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g4m3rx
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Perhaps they are capped. I noticed the same thing.

Most likely the RR that we get have a AVG history of 5, because of our membership and so their future AVG will be about 5 too.

Anyway an AVG of 5 is a profitable AVG. My BEP AVG is 4.32.

With an AVG of 5, a golden membership and 750 refs fully extended I get ~15USD per month of pure profit.

If you want to "professionally" calculate those parameters feel free to use THIS

If you have any questions or suggestions please ask me. Good luck !
olaser
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Hello g4m3rx, hello all,

(I moved this from g4m3rx thread regarding the calculation sheet to here)

I tried to do some maths, but at the end I was a little bit disappointed.
I hope, you proof me wrong with my calculation.

Otherwise you cant build up the account based on RR without investing money from outside.

Lets take my numbers:
As I stated in this thread, I bought 100RR and silver month so far.

Now, as we noticed, the average clickrate seems to be capped at 5.
Lets assume the ideal case, all will click and we have an average of 5 clicks per RR.
That would mean a RR makes $0,005 a day (best case)

Regarding the cost:
Again best case 365 days ($1,278) means $1,278/365 = $0,0035 each day for a period of a year.
Now, we consider the Membership plan. Cheapest Plan is monthly silver ($5)
So with 100 RR it means a daily cost per RR of $5/30/100 = $0,00167
In total we have a cost of $0,0035 + $0,00167 = $0,0517

That means a loss of 0,0017 a day per RR (in the ideal scenario, no recycle costs)

So I ask you all, how can you build up your account based on RR?
Even with the own clicks you are still making loss

It seems to me, that you need at least about 120 RR to get a break even in ideal case ...
probably 170 to 180 with recycle cost when you get an average clickrate of 4,5 (to be expected)

Where is my fault?
Is that the plan of the whole thing?

Please proof me wrong!

--olaser
« Last Edit: 2019-02-12 at 18:54 by olaser »
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sptanwar
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Quote: olaser
Hello g4m3rx, hello all,

(I moved this from g4m3rx thread regarding the calculation sheet to here)

I tried to do some maths, but at the end I was a little bit disappointed.
I hope, you proof me wrong with my calculation.

Otherwise you cant build up the account based on RR without investing money from outside.

Lets take my numbers:
As I stated in this thread, I bought 100RR and silver month so far.

Now, as we noticed, the average clickrate seems to be capped at 5.
Lets assume the ideal case, all will click and we have an average of 5 clicks per RR.
That would mean a RR makes $0,005 a day (best case)

Regarding the cost:
Again best case 365 days ($1,278) means $1,278/365 = $0,0035 each day for a period of a year.
Now, we consider the Membership plan. Cheapest Plan is monthly silver ($5)
So with 100 RR it means a daily cost per RR of $5/30/100 = $0,00167
In total we have a cost of $0,0035 + $0,00167 = $0,0517

That means a loss of 0,0017 a day per RR (in the ideal scenario, no recycle costs)

So I ask you all, how can you build up your account based on RR?
Even with the own clicks you are still making loss

It seems to me, that you need at least about 120 RR to get a break even in ideal case ...
probably 170 to 180 with recycle cost when you get an average clickrate of 4,5 (to be expected)

Where is my fault?
Is that the plan of the whole thing?

Please proof me wrong!

--olaser


Silver has a limit of 200 RR for monthly as well as yearly. So if you are silver better to be monthly silver than yearly. But best is to go for yearly gold at the earliest. When you go to yearly gold you will get an average of 5,8. All yearly also give you discount for example silver monthly is 5 so in a year you pay 60$ but yearly is 50. Though I do not recommend yearly silver due to reason stated above. Likewise monthly gold is 10$ (500 RR limit) but yearly gold is $100 (200 RR limit) instead of $120 in a year. So yearly membership helps to lower your BEP.
Next ploughback all your profits in renting more. After a while you will be pleasantly surprised with the results. Hope it helps.
sptanwar
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Sorry that is a typo error of 200 RR in yearly gold. The yearly gold RR limit is 2000.
caligularomio
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Yesterday I had 47174/7894=5.976
and this is my usually avg with my strategy...
So, 5 avg is far away of my stats.
Try to change your recycle strategy.
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olaser
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Dont get me wrong ... when I am talking about clickrate average i dont mean the average that is shown on RR page.
I mean the real clicks, cause thats whats gets the money.
For my fresh rented 100 RRs:
(dont count the last one ... there woll come more today)
https://i.imgur.com/FaH6ZkM.png

But as you see, its definitely below 500, so clickrate is lower than 5!!
Fresh rented, as you can see here: (ordered by clicks)
https://i.imgur.com/A8UqNT7.png

I dont know whats the average in this table means ... but what counts are the clicks...
And every day, the best RRs get another 5 clicks ... so tomorrow I can take another picture, and I am pretty sure, that the number of clicks will be 30 ...

@caligularomio:
Thats a great rate, but I wonder how to get there, as my RRs are fresh rented.
So you suggest I should recycle all of my fresh RRs?

That makes no sense, makes it ?

--olaser
« Last Edit: 2019-02-13 at 08:32 by olaser »
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mWiz
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Quote: caligularomio
Yesterday I had 47174/7894=5.976
and this is my usually avg with my strategy...
So, 5 avg is far away of my stats.
Try to change your recycle strategy.


a year back I was having like 6+ avg but eversince the mysterious capping it hardly crosses 5.5 in Scarlet.
member since 2015... no matter which recycle strategy I use.
Maybe members who do special recycling get 6+ avg daily
« Last Edit: 2019-02-14 at 02:49 by mWiz »
sptanwar
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Quote: olaser
Dont get me wrong ... when I am talking about clickrate average i dont mean the average that is shown on RR page.
I mean the real clicks, cause thats whats gets the money.
For my fresh rented 100 RRs:
(dont count the last one ... there woll come more today)
https://i.imgur.com/FaH6ZkM.png

But as you see, its definitely below 500, so clickrate is lower than 5!!
Fresh rented, as you can see here: (ordered by clicks)
https://i.imgur.com/A8UqNT7.png

I dont know whats the average in this table means ... but what counts are the clicks...
And every day, the best RRs get another 5 clicks ... so tomorrow I can take another picture, and I am pretty sure, that the number of clicks will be 30 ...

@caligularomio:
Thats a great rate, but I wonder how to get there, as my RRs are fresh rented.
So you suggest I should recycle all of my fresh RRs?

That makes no sense, makes it ?

--olaser


You should recycle only those RRs who are inactive that is who have not clicked for last 5 days. Have some patience and rent more. It takes about a month for RRs to stablise at around 5,7 to 5.9 if you recycle as above. Give yourself atleast a month. Don't panic. Recently in my GPT planet I was getting average of 3.8 but now I am getting 5.2 after 3 months.
caligularomio
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olaser I mean the same as you say.
The 47714 clicks are real clicks.
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